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Post by Mr. Thomas on May 14, 2014 12:10:01 GMT -5
"Fly, Fleance!"
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Post by chrisnoble on May 14, 2014 14:01:33 GMT -5
C. How is it possible that Fleance gets away from the murderers and escapes: “O treachery! Fly, good Fleance, fly, fly, fly! Thou mayst revenge. O slave!” (Act 3 Scene 3 18-19)? How are three men with knives unable to kill two men who were ambushed? It’s crazy! The murderers did a terrible job and I know that Macbeth will be furious.
D. I liked the quote that Macbeth said: “Come, seeling night, scarf up the tender eye of pitiful day, and with thy bloody and invisible hand cancel and tear to pieces that great bond which keeps me paled!” (Act 3 Scene 2 46-50). I liked this quote because it prepares the reader with what is going to happen in the next scene. We all now know that Banquo will be killed in the near future, it’s just a matter of time until it happens.
G. If I were one of the three murderers, I’d be extremely nervous about having to kill Banquo and Fleance. There were no guns to use at this time, so I’d have to get very close to Banquo and Fleance. What if Banquo hears me, sees my knife, and has his own knife to defend himself? What if someone sees the murder? What if Fleance gets away and tells everyone in the palace about the murder?
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Post by eddieditolla25 on May 14, 2014 15:57:36 GMT -5
Eddie DiTolla
Mr. Thomas
English 10
14 May 2014
Act 3 Scenes 2+3
I. I agree with Chris because I too would nervous about having to kill Banquo and Fleance even though they are called murderers for a reason. There were no guns to use at this time, so I’d have to get very close to Banquo and Fleance. What if Banquo hears me, sees my knife, and has his own knife to defend himself?
D. Two sets of lines I liked in these to scenes were “Must lave our honours in these flattering streams And make our faces vizards to our hearts, disguising what they are (pg. 47 lines 33-35).” I liked this set of lines because Macbeth says that he and his wife must wash there royal titles in floods of flattery to make them appear honorable. This set of lines describes Macbeth as his false personality and actual human. Another set of lines I liked was “Whiles night’s black agents to their preys do rouse. Thou marvell’s at my words, but hold thee still (pg 48 lines 53-54).” I liked this set of lines because early in this little speech by Macbeth he was talking about humans and how at night that people come out to murder other people just like how night animals come out to hunt their prey.
E. One reaction I had during these two scenes was that Lady Macbeth acted cooled down from the past scenes. One line I found that says this is “But in them Nature’s copy’s not eterne (pg. 47 line 38).” This line describes her as cooling down because she is telling Macbeth to relax and not to worry about it and that Life does not hold and eternal copyright of Banquo and Fleance. Also, it seems like that Macbeth has become more private and secretive about things.
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Post by kyleconnolly on May 14, 2014 18:15:32 GMT -5
B) These two scenes are extremely important to the plot. Banquo, a loyal friend to Macbeth who has had his suspicions about the death of King Duncan, is to be killed. Macbeth knows his suspicions will could cause serious problems, but that is not the main reason why he wants Banquo dead. In the witches prophecy, Macbeth would become king which has become true but Banquo’s sons and his sons after that will rule the kingdom. Unfortunately for Fleance, Banquo’s son, he will have to die as well, and if that is completed, the prophecy will fall apart. When Macbeth plans to murder Banquo and Fleance with hired murderers, it fails as Banquo is killed and Fleance has escaped. This will lead to serious problems for Macbeth who is determined to kill Fleance. “O treachery! Fly, good Fleance, fly, fly, fly! Thou mayst revenge O slave!”
C) If Macbeth doesn’t have a son yet, why does he need to kill Fleance if Banquo isn’t the king? If Banquo isn’t the king, how could his son be the heir to the throne? Does Macbeth not realize, that if the witches can truly see into the future, wouldn’t they have predicted Macbeth trying to screw around with their prophecy?
G) If I was Lady Macbeth I would be feeling really nervous. I do not know what Macbeth is up to but I do know that it is nothing good. Despite encouraging my husband to kill King Duncan, I’m not sure what he is doing and he won’t tell me, but apparently I will be pleased with it.
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Post by robertmaruca on May 14, 2014 20:04:55 GMT -5
Macbeth Act 3 Scene 2 and 3
B. I think Macbeth’s actions are significant in Scene 2. He is talking with his wife Lady Macbeth and he is refusing to reveal to her his scheme. Lady Macbeth is urging Macbeth to cool down and relax but Macbeth seems irritated and doesn’t look like he will listen to her again. There is a role reversal here as in the beginning Macbeth was calm and was thinking of not killing Duncan and Lady Macbeth was the secretive one keeping the plan to herself.
C. Why does Macbeth call another murderer to help carry out the murder of Banquo and Fleance? The other murderers seemed shocked to see another one join them. Why are the murderers upset that they couldn’t kill Fleance as well. Will Macbeth get mad at them when they report to him.
F. The relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth has changed drastically ever since the murder of King Duncan. Macbeth is still out of his mind and is now plotting the death of Banquo and Fleance. Lady Macbeth is not allowed to hear the plans because Macbeth is refusing to tell. These two aren’t clicking anymore and they are no longer on the same page. Macbeth wants to do something and Lady Macbeth wants to do something else. I think these differences will continue to linger and damage both of them
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Post by alfredfrederic on May 14, 2014 20:17:22 GMT -5
B) By the looks of things, these two scenes seemed to be one of the most important parts of the play. I mean, Banquo is killed while we see Macbeth go deeper and deeper into the realms of insanity. It looks like we really see the true side of kingship, the dark and devious part of it. And now we’ve lost all hope in Macbeth because now, he’s on a killing spree. And he isn’t taking advice from anyone, not even his wife. We really see how we’ve lost Macbeth in these scenes, and now we don’t have anyone really against him in the story.
C) Do you agree that Macbeth has completely lost his sanity when we see him as king? How was he chosen to become king anyway? Does it look like he deserves to be king anymore?
I) In class I wanted to talk about the fact that, now Macbeth is going against his own friends and family out of paranoia. It looks like time has changed Macbeth and caused him to become more ruthless and more like his wife. And ironically, his wife has mellowed out after becoming queen. Now it looks like we will have some more change before the end of the play. And it looks less like Macbeth will change, and more like someone else is going to change. Macbeth has really lost his sanity with his kingship, and now is really worried about everything and how everyone will react to him now being king.
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Post by Nicholas Leong on May 14, 2014 21:21:36 GMT -5
C.When the 3 murders finally attacked Banquo and his son, why or how did his son get away. “O treachery! Fly, good Fleance, fly, fly, fly! Thou mayst revenge. O slave!” (Act 3 Scene 3 18-19)" If i were them I wold of had one of the three murderers hold Fleance just so he couldnt get away. I would kill banquo first then kill Fleance. Another question that i had is what did the murders do with Banquos body?
E. I was shocked about how dark and paranoid Macbeth is getting. I think he is getting a little to paranoid and it is causing him not to think. When Macbeth was talking about how he wanted to kill Banquo but lady Macbeth said don't, i was shocked because this is coming from the person who said that she would kill either her baby or a baby she was breastfeeding and for her to not be femine just for that murder of Duncan.
I. Responding to Rob Maruca where he says "C. Why does Macbeth call another murderer to help carry out the murder of Banquo and Fleance? The other murderers seemed shocked to see another one join them. Why are the murderers upset that they couldn’t kill Fleance as well. Will Macbeth get mad at them when they report to him." Macbeth calls another murderer because thats how paranoid he is that he cant even trust them.
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Post by VonGarcia on May 14, 2014 23:15:18 GMT -5
C.) I’m wondering why Macbeth is having a sudden thirst of total power. He’s got everything now. And now he wants to kill Fleance for some reason. I know that the prophecy states that Banquo’s descendants will be kings but what does that have to do with him? It seems like Banquo and Fleance have no plot at all to kill Macbeth. “Oh full of scorpions is my mind, dear wife! Thou know’st that Banquo, and his Fleance, lives.” (Act 3 Scene 2 Lines 39-40) Another question I have is why weren’t the murderers name given? Do they have a small role in the play? Do they disappear completely after these next few scenes?
E.) I really find it interesting how Macbeth totally changed now that he is king. He feels like he’s in total control and gets whatever he wants. Now he seems to be more in control of the marriage and can’t be told by his wife anymore what to do. For example, his wife can’t talk him out of killing more and more people anymore. Also now that he’s in power he could just order murderers to kill who ever he wants. I also find it interesting how secretive he’s become. Also, how he has almost no trust for anybody. Is this because he noticed how Duncan trusted everyone and it just led to his death?
I.) I agree with Nick. I think they should have thought their murder plans through. Why would they put three guys on Banquo and leave Fleance there by himself, who clearly could just hop on his horse and literally fly. I just feel sad for these murderers who failed miserable on a three again two battle, not to mention one of the two was not combat ready.
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Post by victorpasquin on May 15, 2014 5:32:33 GMT -5
C) Why does macbeth have to kill Fleance? The prophecy says that Banquo's sons will be kings but someone who has a higher rank would probably be heir to the throne first. Why isn't macbeth able to realize this?
B) These scenes have a huge importance to the plot and outcome of the play. macbeth is so paranoid about losing power that he sends people to kill Banquo and his son and he ends up killing Banquo and Fleance escapes. I also think that these scenes may show foreshadowing and how macbeth will lose the throne and die in future years. I think someone will have a suspicion of him murdering someone and they will kill macbeth.
I) In response to Rob's question about macbeth assigning the task to another murderer, macbeth is paranoid and wants to make sure that the deed gets done. He figures that one more killer would give them a man advantage and they would out number Banquo and Fleance 3-2. Also, it may be a case where macbeth wanted to motivate the original two murderers to be able to better complete the deed.
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