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Post by Mr. Thomas on Apr 29, 2014 13:53:04 GMT -5
"...unsex me here..."
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Post by chrisnoble on Apr 29, 2014 14:56:32 GMT -5
C. I don’t understand what Duncan means when he is talking to Banquo: “And in his commendations I am fed: It is a banquet to me” (Scene 4 55-56). What does he mean by “it is a banquet to me?” What is a banquet to him?
D. I liked the aside that Macbeth says: “The Prince of Cumberland! That is a step on which I must fall down, or else o’er-leap, for in my way it lies. Stars, hide your fires! Let not light see my black and deep desires: The eye wink at the hand; yet let that be which the eye fears, when it is done, to see” (Scene 4 48-53). I liked this quote because it reveals what is going to happen but it does so in almost a “secret” way. I also liked the words that Macbeth uses to describe his future plans such as “the eye wink at the hand.”
E. I don’t like the fact that Malcolm was chosen as Prince of Cumberland: “My plenteous joys, Wanton in fullness, seek to hide themselves in drops of sorrow…sons, kinsmen, thanes, and you whose places are the nearest, know, we will establish our state upon our eldest, Malcolm, whom we name hereafter The Prince of Cumberland” (Scene 4 33-39). Why should Malcolm be chosen and not Macbeth? Macbeth has proven himself through war and fighting but he still wasn’t named prince, which I think is outrageous.
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Post by eddieditolla on Apr 29, 2014 17:43:25 GMT -5
Eddie DiTolla
Mr. Thomas
29 April 2014
Macbeth Act 1 scene 4 – 5
D. One set of lines I liked in these scenes were “There’s no art to find the mind’s construction in the face. He was a gentleman on whom I built An absolute trust (11-14).” I liked this set of lines because here Duncan says you cannot know what the man is thinking just by looking into his face which I find interesting. Another set of lines I liked is “And pall thee in the dumnest smoke of hell, That my keen knife see not the wound it makes, Nor heaven peep through the blanket of the dark, To cry hold, hold (50 – 54).” I liked this set of lines because in this set Lady Macbeth seems like she wants to kill Duncan and she does not want the heavens to see her kill him and will kill him with knife to become queen too.
I. I agree with Chris because I too don’t like the fact that Malcolm was chosen as Prince of Cumberland: “My plenteous joys, Wanton in fullness, seek to hide themselves in drops of sorrow…sons, kinsmen, thanes, and you whose places are the nearest, know, we will establish our state upon our eldest, Malcolm, whom we name hereafter The Prince of Cumberland” (Scene 4 33-39. Macbeth has proven himself through war and fighting but he still wasn’t named prince, which I think is outrageous.
Setting the scene
I chose the scene when Lady Macbeth is talking about her plot to kill Duncan and I have her look angry and in her town house with Macbeth walking down the path to their house
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Post by kyleconnolly on Apr 29, 2014 17:50:07 GMT -5
B) The two scenes that we covered today in class are extremely important to the plot that is blooming. Malcolm, King Duncan’s son has just been named heir to the throne which seems to have aggravated Macbeth. “The Prince of Cumberland: that is a step On which I must fall down, or else o’erleap, For in my way it lies.” Macbeth is referring to Malcolm and he is saying how he is in his way to becoming King. Also, Macbeth is planning on killing the king, to which his wife says that he’ll never see the sun again.
C) You would think that after being betrayed by the last Thane of Cawdor, King Duncan would pick and choose very carefully who he would choose to replace the traitor. Is he stupid or does he just lack common sense to be careful when choosing people for political powers? “There’s no art to find the mind’s construction in the face. He was a gentleman on whom I built an absolute trust.”
E) I was surprised to see how involved lady Macbeth is with the whole situation. Normally a wife wouldn’t be so glad to see her husband killing someone, let alone encouraging it. “O never shall sun that morrow see”
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Post by nicholasleong on Apr 29, 2014 19:00:09 GMT -5
Nicholas Leong
Mr.Thomas
English 10
29 April 2014
E.One thing that shocked me was how greedy the wife of Macbeth is. She only wants Macbeth to kill Duncan so she can become queen and Macbeth can become queen. I think she is fast to encourage Macbeth to do the killing but if Macbeth tells her to do it she will chicken out.
I. I agree with Chris where he says how he was surprised when Malcom became named the heir of Duncan. I don’t think that he should be the heir because he wasn’t fighting in the the battle so he really did not earn that title.
C.One question I have is why is Duncan staying over the night? And I think it is kind of Ironic how he is sleeping over when Macbeth is trying to kill him
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Post by peterboustani on Apr 29, 2014 20:43:27 GMT -5
Peter Boustani
D. I really liked the relationship between Macbeth and his wife, (Lady Macbeth) because especially seen in his wife, she is extremely supportive but what makes it interesting is the support for doing these evil things for power. It reminds me strongly of Francis and Claire Underwood from House of Cards who love each other solely for their evil almost. The difference is that both Macbeth and Lady Macbeth almost want to be blinded while doing these evil acts. What I find extremely cool though is that despite the both of them wanting to become almost unaware of their evil doings, Lady Macbeth is so strong to do this with her husband that she insured in her aside that she will do whatever it takes to convince him and taken away any doubts.
B. I feel like this scene was extremely important in showing how Macbeth and his wife are as characters. They appear so nice and supportive on one side, having the King stay at their home, but they are planning to murder him and what’s even more interesting is their need to do these evil acts blindly. Again this reminds me very much of House of Cards in the way that Macbeth can look so kind and sincere in front of the people but then can so quickly turn to the audience and explain how he truly feels, which is much different than how it appears in front of others.
C. I wonder if Macbeth is going to murder Malcolm. I feel as though he could convince himself that what he is doing to Duncan could perhaps be seen as mercy but killing a young man is something I feel would push Macbeth’s character to a much darker level.
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Post by VonGarcia on Apr 29, 2014 22:07:33 GMT -5
C.) One question that I cant seem to grasp is that are Macbeth and his wife naturally cruel already? Or did the witches telling them the future have anything to do about this? It seems like it all started when the witches appeared. Also, it feels as if the witches are playing a trick on them. Another question I have is that whether or not Macbeth is actually going to go through with their plan. He seems like a very noble and trustworthy guy. I feel like theres just a dark spirit that is bringing the cruelness out of him.
E.) I am just really shocked at how cruel Macbeth’s wife really is. She seems like she’d do anything to make Macbeth king so that she herself could be queens. She really scared me because she even prayed to these ghosts for strength to murder King Duncan. “ Come, you spirits that tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here, and fill me from the crown to the toe-full of direst cruelty!” (Lines 40-44) This makes me think that his wife is a witch herself too. She’s cruel and willing to do extremely dark things just to get what she wants. Another thing makes me think of her as a witch is how she is talking Macbeth into doing it telling him to be the serpent underneath the flower.
I.) I agree with Eddie. I also liked that quote because its kind of funny that he’s saying that and there’s already one coming in who seems to be desperate enough to betray him just to get that king position.
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Post by alfredfrederic on Apr 29, 2014 22:12:31 GMT -5
C) What do you think Macbeth is thinking through the course of the scene? Do you guys believe that he will actually go through with his plan to kill the king? Does that seem like him or does it seem that he’s been possessed by something? What do you guys think is going to happen to Macbeth and the king?
G) I would be in quite a problem if I were Macbeth right now. I would have to kill the king so I could become king and I also have to kill his son. That’s sadistic and cruel at the same time. It would really be a problem for me to go through with a plan like that. I mean, killing the king is one thing, but killing him and his son is another.
I) I wanted to point out how Macbeth looks like he’s going to do something he’s going to regret. I mean, killing the king to become king is a really low thing to do. It doesn’t look like Macbeth will make a very good king. I guess that’s way his children won’t be king but Banquio’s will. It looks more like those witches were testing his character to see if he would really go that far to become king. It doesn’t look like anything more than a test the witches put to see if Macbeth was worthy of becoming king. If he goes through with it, would he really deserve to be king? And remember, he still needs to be voted into power by the thanes, and that’s a problem of its own. So do you guys think he’ll earn kingship?
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Post by victorpasquin on Apr 29, 2014 22:33:00 GMT -5
B) Scenes 4 and 5 have a huge effect on the plot of the play. malcolm, Duncan's son, is appointed The Prince Of Cumberland, making him air to the throne. macbeth sees the problem because he knows blood is going to have to be shed in order for him to become king. He doesn't want to have to kill more people than he has to, but he is willing to do whatever. This sets up macbeth having to kill Duncan and malcolm. macbeth says, “The Prince of Cumberland: that is a step On which I must fall down, or else o’erleap, For in my way it lies.”
C) Why is Lady macbeth so eager to make macbeth king? The two prophecies worked themselves out, why do you have to make the other one happen, instead of just letting things work out? “O never shall sun that morrow see". She is referring to killing Duncan and not letting him see tomorrow.
E) It's pretty amazing at how twisted and dark Lady macbeth is. You'd think that macbeth would be the violent one who kills people in order to become a corrupt king, but Lady macbeth is the evil mastermind behind everything. She will do whatever she has to to get her way. “ Come, you spirits that tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here, and fill me from the crown to the toe-full of direst cruelty!”
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Post by thomaslaible on Jun 4, 2014 9:49:13 GMT -5
Scenes 4 and 5 have a huge effect on the plot of the play. malcolm, Duncan's son, is appointed The Prince Of Cumberland, making him air to the throne. macbeth sees the problem because he knows blood is going to have to be shed in order for him to become king. He doesn't want to have to kill more people than he has to, but he is willing to do whatever. This sets up macbeth having to kill Duncan and malcolm. macbeth says, “The Prince of Cumberland: that is a step On which I must fall down, or else o’erleap, For in my way it lies.”
I agree with Eddie. I also liked that quote because its kind of funny that he’s saying that and there’s already one coming in who seems to be desperate enough to betray him just to get that king position.
I don’t understand the fact that Malcolm was chosen as Prince of Cumberland: “My plenteous joys, Wanton in fullness, seek to hide themselves in drops of sorrow…sons, kinsmen, thanes, and you whose places are the nearest, know, we will establish our state upon our eldest, Malcolm, whom we name hereafter The Prince of Cumberland” (Scene 4 33-39). Why should Malcolm be chosen and not Macbeth? Macbeth has proven himself through war and fighting but he still wasn’t named prince. I think the story would not be as interesting if Macbeth became prince. I think this is why Shakespeare does this.
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