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Post by Mr. Thomas on Mar 31, 2014 10:54:19 GMT -5
The finale
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Post by chrisnoble on Mar 31, 2014 15:56:04 GMT -5
C. Why would Holden spend his night sleeping on a bench in Grand Central Station? Why doesn’t he just go home and sleep in his own bed? Instead he makes a foolish decision: “I didn’t want to go to another hotel and spend all Phoebe’s dough. So finally all I did was I walked over to Lexington and took the subway down to Grand Central. My bags were there and all, and I figured I’d sleep in that crazy waiting room where all the benches are” (page 252). Holden needs to realize that he can’t hide from his parents forever, so he should be a man and tell his parents what happened.
E. I don’t understand Holden’s decision: “Finally, what I decided I’d do, I decided I’d go away. I decided I’d never go home again and I’d never go away to another school again. I decided I’d just see old Phoebe and sort of say good-by to her and all, and give her back her Christmas dough, and then I’d start hitchhiking my way out West” (page 257). Why would Holden do such a thing? He has a family, a home, and someone he can talk to: Phoebe. Why would he throw all of that away and risk his future to live on his own all the way out West? I didn’t like Holden’s decision for his future.
G. If I was Holden I would definitely rethink my decision about the future. I would look at the positives and negatives of each choice, and make the best decision for me.
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Post by Kyle Connolly on Mar 31, 2014 16:07:24 GMT -5
C) After all that Holden had been through, you would think he would consider applying himself at the new school he'll be attending, what is going through his head as he considers this?
D)One part I liked during chapter 25 was when Holden watches Phoebe go around the carousel and he feels a sudden urge of happiness. It was really a wonderful moment and finally, Holden has some feeling of satisfaction. Holden had been broken down to almost nothing, who would've ruined his life by moving out west to leave by himself. I was happy for Holden and he's sure as hell glad he isn't sad
E) It's pretty sad to see what Holden has been reduced to. He doesn't have anywhere to stay so he is forced to sleep on a bench in Grand Central Station. Holden, who comes from a family of decent wealth, should be ashamed to look in a mirror and see what he has become, but of course him being his usual self-centered self, has taken no notice to it whatsoever. The things he does during the following day are almost as bad as sleeping on a bench in a train station. Holden walks up and down Fifth Avenue, watching the children and feeling more and more nervous and overwhelmed. Every time he crosses a street, he feels like he will disappear, so each time he reaches a curb, he calls to Allie, pleading with his dead brother to let him make it to the other side of the street.
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Post by eddieditolla on Mar 31, 2014 17:05:11 GMT -5
Eddie DiTolla
Mr. Thomas
English 10
31 March 2014
Catcher in the Rye Finale
I. In response to Chris’s question as to why would Holden spend his night sleeping on a bench in Grand Central Station? Why doesn’t he just go home and sleep in his own bed? Instead he makes a foolish decision: “I didn’t want to go to another hotel and spend all Phoebe’s dough. So finally all I did was I walked over to Lexington and took the subway down to Grand Central. My bags were there and all, and I figured I’d sleep in that crazy waiting room where all the benches are (page 252).” He is a Kyle said forced to live in Grand central because he does not want to go home yet and he does not want to not want to spend Phoebes money. I agree with kyle to because when Holden was watching Phoebe on the carousel it too also seemed to me he had his first actual happy moment and almost started to cry, unlike in the rest of the entire he was depressed.
E. In chapter 25 it seems to me that Holden has come up in different situations and that it always ends up making him depressed. “But this damn article I started reading made me feel almost worse. It was all about hormones. It described how you should look, your face and eyes and all, if your hormones were in good shape, and I didn’t look that way at all (Salinger 195).”
G. If I was Holden I would have made smarter decisions and reflect on what th outcome was and change my attitude towards life and other people.
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Post by alfredfrederic on Mar 31, 2014 17:18:44 GMT -5
B) Well this was a calm ending to a very fast-paced and depressing book. I mean it starts off with him getting kicked out of school and now ends with him vowing to apply himself in school. It’s funny how in the end he actually seems to have learned something from his experiences and looking back, he doesn’t regret anything and actually seems to have lost a lot of his cynicism. It really seems like a bittersweet/borderline happy ending for Holden and his family. I really liked how in the end, it was Phoebe who ended up convincing him to stay and do his work for then on. And the last few lines he says in the last chapter cements the fact that he has changed despite all the signs saying he didn’t.
C) Why was Phoebe really thinking of going with Holden? Does she really want to be with him where ever he goes? Do you guys see some bookends here? (When scenes in the beginning of the book repeat themselves at the end) Isn’t it funny that now Holden misses everyone he met on his borderline misadventure, even Maurice? Do you think Holden actually seems relieved to be finishing the story he started? Do you think that he will actually do what he says he’ll do?
E) In the end the book was great! I really liked the calm ending where Holden really looks back on what has happened and has realized how much he has changed over the course of the story. Finally we don’t see cynicism, but true feeling in him.
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Post by martinsteffens on Mar 31, 2014 19:07:52 GMT -5
Martin Steffens
Mr. Thomas
Sophomore English
March 31, 2014
Chapters 25-26 Catcher in the Rye
D) I really like the way J.D. Salinger ended the book. “About all I know is I sorta miss everybody I told about. Even old Stradlater and Ackley, for instance. I think I even miss that goddam Maurice. It’s funny. Don’t ever tell anybody anything. If you do, you start missing everybody.” I like those lines because it ties the story together well. I feel bad for Holden for the first time reading these lines.
E) I agree with Kyle when he says its sad to see what heppend to Holden. He doesn't have anywhere to stay so he is forced to sleep on a bench in Grand Central Station. Holden, who comes from a family of decent wealth, should be ashamed to look in a mirror and see what he has become, but of course him being his usual self-centered self, has taken no notice to it whatsoever. The things he does during the following day are almost as bad as sleeping on a bench in a train station. Holden walks up and down Fifth Avenue, watching the children and feeling more and more nervous and overwhelmed. Every time he crosses a street, he feels like he will disappear, so each time he reaches a curb, he calls to Allie, pleading with his dead brother to let him make it to the other side of the street.
A) This can relate to everyday life when he says we cannot talk about people or else well miss them. I feel like that is correct because whenever I talk about my brothers who went away to college I miss them a lot.
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Post by victorpasquin on Mar 31, 2014 22:31:53 GMT -5
C) I don't get why Holden is sleeping in Grand Central Station. His family is a middle class family so why won't he sleep at home? Holden talks about his new school that he will be starting in the fall and I wonder how he will approach his studies and schoolwork. Will he still fail to remain focused when it comes to school?
D) I enjoyed how the book ended. The book ends by Holden reminiscing on the past and how he wished that he spent more time with people like Stradlater. “About all I know is I sorta miss everybody I told about. Even old Stradlater and Ackley, for instance. I think I even miss that goddam Maurice. It’s funny. Don’t ever tell anybody anything. If you do, you start missing everybody.” (Salinger 214)
E) Overall, I enjoyed the book. The book shows how Holden's life has been deteriorating as time has gone on. It shows all the tough times that Holden has endured and how he has toughened them out and in some cases, had to suffer from his actions. Holden first appears as someone who dislikes almost everyone in the world. However, we begin to see that he does have close relationships with certain people.(Allie, Phoebe, mr. Antolini)
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