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Post by Mr. Thomas on Mar 14, 2014 10:22:17 GMT -5
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Post by alfredfrederic on Mar 16, 2014 15:15:55 GMT -5
C) Why did Holden ask for a prostitute? Was he really so lonely that he just needed someone to be with him, even if it was someone like a prostitute? Why did he just talk to her, then still pay her even if he didn’t do anything besides talk to her?
G) If I were Holden, I would be worried too when Maurice walked into the room and attacked. I mean, I would be in a hotel room, doing nothing when a pimp walked in asking for money. Then actually rob you of your money to pay off a prostitute you did nothing with and already payed for anyway. Maurice should’ve been clear with the price instead of making Holden pay 5 more dollars and get beaten up in the process. Was it even necessary to actually make him pay that $5? Was it really that important to him?
H) For the hotel room Sunny and Holden are in, I would put one bed and make it a small room. Holden would be sitting in a chair near the bed while Sunny would be waiting on the bed. The closet would be right next to the bed, opposite the table and the chair. There will be a bathroom opposite the wall near the bed. In between the closet and the bed will be a lit lamp. Inside the closet will be a few hangers and some of Holden’s belongings. The door will be at the end of the room like what’d you expect from a hotel. The whole room will be carpeted.
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Post by chrisnoble on Mar 17, 2014 11:38:12 GMT -5
E. When Holden was thinking about who stole his gloves when he was walking back to his hotel, I was surprised by how much he cared and thought about it: “For instance, if I’d found out at Pencey who’d stolen my gloves, I probably would’ve gone down to the crook’s room and said, “Okay. How ‘bout handing over those gloves?” Then the crook that had stolen them probably would’ve said, his voice very innocent and all, “What gloves?”… “Nobody’s calling anybody a thief. All I know is my gloves were in your goddam galoshes.” It could go on like that for hours. Finally though, I’d leave his room without even taking a sock at him. I’d probably go down to the can and sneak a cigarette and watch myself getting tough in the mirror” (pages 115-117). I was surprised when I read this because it shows how much Holden cares about the smaller things in his life. He thinks about a whole scene in his head about finding someone who stole his gloves and what he would do to them.
G. If I was Holden, I would be worried about telling my parents that I got expelled from Pencey. I think his mother would be extra mad because Holden says that she is already nervous since Allie died. Despite being worried, I would tell my parents what happened and be a man about it.
I. I agree with Alfred about Maurice beating up Holden. It wasn’t necessary to do such a thing for only 5 dollars. Maurice should’ve explained to Holden what the problem was before he got so physical and beat Holden up.
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Post by peterboustani on Mar 18, 2014 2:49:01 GMT -5
Peter Boustani
C. Why does Holding argue with Maurice so much when he comes to his door with Sally the next morning? This is just one example of Holding doing something completely irrational and what makes it even more confusing is his self reflections after the fact that he thinks of only moments after the whole ordeal where he literally tells us that he understands that it was a bad decision. It is so frustrating because when Maurice arrived he could have just said that he never had sex with her or come up with something rather than to just argue with no real intentions in sight. There was absolutely no good reason for Holding to have continued to argue as it would have saved him the tears, embarrassment and fear of Maurice. I like to critic Holding a lot because I feel he is the most realistic and thus most flawed character.
D. I really didn’t like the part with Holding and Sally as I found it really annoying. A lot of the time I feel like myself as the reader who is supposed to be seeing these events from the most legitimate source there is and yet I cant believe a word of what Holding is saying. He feels like a friend who makes up excuses for not doing things that are thought of to be cool because he felt like it when in reality he was really in fear. Its such an annoyance in my opinion and it does not help that all of the problems that Holding runs into are his fault making him much less sympathetic.
B. I think despite this being a very rare chance, especially considering the story is realistic fiction that one of the multiple characters such as the three women from Seattle or Maurice or Sally will show up later down the line in the story. I predict this because these characters seem to perfect to not run into him some time down the line once again.
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Post by VonGarcia on Mar 18, 2014 16:59:04 GMT -5
C.) What is Holden’s religion? He hates it when people ask if he’s Catholic just because he has an Irish last name. Another question I have is that why did Holden walk the long blocks back to the hotel? Why didn’t he feel like hailing a taxi? It is way better to just hail a taxi and ride all the way back to the hotel.
D.) “Something happened once. For a while when I was at Elktom Hills, I roomed with this boy, Dick Slagle, that had these very inexpensive suitcases. He used to keep them under the bed, instead of on the rack, so that nobody’d see them standing next to mine. This depressed holy hell out of me, and I kept wanting to throw mine out or something, or even trade with him.” (Page 108) I liked these lines because it showed a kind side of Holden. He didn’t want to embarrass Dick Slagle. He felt sorry that he had a more expensive case than him. Also, I liked these lines because it finally showed me why he hated cheap suitcases. I thought he only hated it because it wasn’t pretty to look at, or they were just cheap.
E.) My reaction to the character Sally is that she is full of herself. When Holden was on the phone with her she kept on talking about these boys who she declared were “crazy”’ over her. She talked about a guy from Harvard that cant stop calling her.
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