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Post by Mr. Thomas on Dec 9, 2013 8:26:43 GMT -5
A reflective piece by Stephen King.
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Post by chrisnoble on Dec 9, 2013 17:54:33 GMT -5
D. I liked the quote about Scott finding the items in his apartment: “When I got back to my apartment, there was a pair of sunglasses with red frames and very distinctive lenses on the little table in the foyer where I keep bills that need to be paid, claim checks, overdue-book notices, and things of that nature. I recognized the glasses at once, and all the strength went out of me. I didn’t fall, but I dropped my packages on the floor and leaned against the side of the door, trying to catch my breath and staring at those sunglasses” (page 6). I liked this quote because it brings suspense and excitement to the story. The quote brings suspense because the reader doesn’t know what will happen next, it could be anything. I think the author described this scene in great detail because it shows that this scene can be very important in relation to the rest of the story. E. I didn’t like the use of Narrative Drift in some parts of the story: “I admitted that it was although I didn’t add that I was still quite new to it. Nor did I ask her to call me Scott- that would have spooked her all over again. And I certainly didn’t tell her that I was trying to forget all I’d once known about rural insurance. That I was, in fact, trying to forget quite a lot of things, including about two dozen faces” (page 4). I didn’t like the use of Narrative Drift because it doesn’t really have a major importance to the story. A small comment would have been fine, but I think a couple of paragraphs are too much. G. If I was Scott when all the items appear in his apartment, I would be scared. I would be scared because I would have no idea how they got there and where they came from.
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Post by eddieditolla on Dec 9, 2013 19:17:39 GMT -5
Eddie DiTolla Mr. Thomas English 10 9 December 2013 Stephen King C. There were many things that were confusing to me besides that I didn’t like the book because it was confusing to follow. One question that I have is why at the beginning of the story he tells us of the story with the air conditioner unit and how he fixes it? Another one is once this idea reminds him, not the ac unit, but, the one about how the first feeling was shame and why would the first idea or story would be him of almost getting caught masturbating, why can’t it be like something h did in school or anything else? I found that to be a little weird of why that was the first idea and how does that even remind you of doing that thing remind you of shame? D. Once I read deeper into the story I figured out what the sunglasses and the other items were from the victims he knew from 9/11 and he has to return them. One set of lines I liked from this book is “In addition to the sunglasses and baseball bat with claims adjustor burned into the side, there was a Howie’s Laff-Riot Farting cushion, a conch shell, a steel penny suspended in a Lucite cube, and a ceramic mushroom (red with spots) that came with a ceramic Alice sitting top of it. The Farting cushion had belonged to Jimmy Eagleton and got a certain amount of play every year at the Christmas party. The ceramic Alice had been on Maureen Hannon’s desk – a gift from her granddaughter she’d told me once. Page 15” I liked this set of lines because it told me of all of the things his friends had and has to return to their families because he was still alive and how he should have been in there with them. Another thing I liked is that everyone had something left behind even though they died in 9/11. E. I’m safe, I said. Haven’t attacked a woman in over a year. I used to attack two or three a week, but the meetings are helping” page 3.” My reactions toward this quote from page three is that why would you tell anyone that you attacked a woman especially if you are talking to a woman like what he did. Lastly, this gut is crazy and I would never talk to this guy ever again.
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Post by gonzaleza16 on Dec 9, 2013 20:50:28 GMT -5
Anthony Gonzalez English 10 Stephen King Mr. Thomas December 9, 2013
D. I like the quote on page 5 where it says " AS infants our first victory comes in grasping some bit of the world usually our mothers fingers. Later we discover that the world, and the things of the world, are grasping us, and have been all along. I like that quote because its true that infants feel there mother first before everything and it relates to a lot of people. I. I also agree with Eddy. I don't like the story at all and it just feels like too much stuff going. I cant seem to get the main ideas and what is going on because it just seems ti change topic quite often. I don't really like that. G. The scene on page 10 where Pedro the doorman is standing downstairs and talking with the Fed Ex man reminds me of the doormen downtown near the plaza and how they greet everyone that goes in and out and helps them with there luggage and delivers any notes or packages that come by them.
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Post by martinsteffens on Dec 9, 2013 21:05:08 GMT -5
Martin Steffens Mr. Thomas English 10 December 9, 2013 C) I was confused at a couple things in this passage. The first is why does King have to use narrative drift in this piece. Every page or so he just goes off and talks about how much the people talk about baseball in New Yak or whatever. My next question is when this was written. There are a lot of similarities in the way this was written but there are also a few differences. The flash disc is something that I recognize but I have never seen in use. On the other hand King uses today terms so I am a little confused. E) As a non-believer in ghosts I do not believe this story one little bit. I think he may have misplaced the sunglasses a while back and the bat turned because of the wind. I liked reading this story because it kept me in suspense but I do not believe it one bit. H) When I was reading this I was only able to visualize Seinfeld. I feel like all of the people would be able to fit the characters of the show. Since Seinfeld was airing before me, it was old school New York, just like this story. If I were to make this story as a movie or a play I would choose Seinfeld as the base.
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Post by kyleconnolly on Dec 9, 2013 21:10:02 GMT -5
A) One thing I noticed during the reading was a similarity between the two authors. I noticed how they tend to drift off topic, go into detail about unnecessary things. This is called Narrative Drift and it is shown in this reading when it says: “Things like that have a way of sticking, whether you like them to or not. Like a musical phrase or the nonsense chorus pop song that you just can’t get out of your head”
C) Why is Scott Staley afraid to tell the woman his first name? Does he have some bad conscience that she will know him in a bad way? How could it possibly “Spook” her? “I admitted, that it was, although I didn’t add that I was still quite new to it. Nor did I ask her to call me Scott, that would have spooked her all over again.”
E) One part that I found very funny was the part where Scott is doing his business and he is scrambling to get dressed before his mother and sister come home. He hears them outside calling his name and he is in a mad scramble to get his clothes back on. He mentions this “Survival overdrive” which I was able to relate to because whenever I’m trying to cover up a lie or when I’m trying to hide something bad I did I go into a frenzy and think of at the time seems like smart ideas. “But more often than not a kind of survival overdrive kicks in at such moments. That’s what happened to me.”
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Post by nicholasleong on Dec 9, 2013 22:17:43 GMT -5
Nicholas Leong Mr.Thomas English 10 12/9/13 Discussion board E. One thing that I found sick and disgusting was that Scott was trying to pleasure himself with his sister’s panties and some magazines. It very disgusting in my opinion because I could never see anybody doing that to their sister. I could reason for doing that, but not to your sister . The thing I found pretty interesting was how he kept referencing to “beat the clock.” As sick as it was, I thought that reference was pretty cool. H. When he hears the moms car rolling into the street and when he hears his mom calling him to come down, I could imagine him just being sprawled out on his sisters bed and just freezing, trying to listen to see if it was really his mom. After realizing it was her, he jumped off the bed in a frantic way and just barely put his clothes on. I. I agree with Chris Noble where he says “I didn’t like the use of Narrative Drift in some parts of the story: “I admitted that it was although I didn’t add that I was still quite new to it. Nor did I ask her to call me Scott- that would have spooked her all over again. And I certainly didn’t tell her that I was trying to forget all I’d once known about rural insurance. That I was, in fact, trying to forget quite a lot of things, including about two dozen faces” (page 4). I didn’t like the use of Narrative Drift because it doesn’t really have a major importance to the story. A small comment would have been fine, but I think a couple of paragraphs are too much” I agree with him because It almost made me not want to read it because it seemed very boring.
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Post by alfredfrederic on Dec 9, 2013 22:33:49 GMT -5
C) So who owned the d=sunglasses in the first place? I didn’t understand what he was talking about with that? What was the point of that flashback to his sister and him jacking off to her panties? Was that just some narrative drift? Or did it have something to do with those glasses? Why does he become reclusive? What is the point of him needing a physiatrist? Are the glasses bringing back bad memories from the past? Is he losing it at the beginning? Why does he mention so many people? Is he showing their impact on his life to fit the title of book? Did they really leave that much of an impact on him? Or what?
E) I find it funny that he was jacking off and then immediately he had to rush to hide everything. I mean the guy is pleasuring himself and then he is about to get caught. That sounds like a scene from a funny movie. He was able to rush and get away quickly; he was good enough to do that at least. I’m still surprised they didn’t notice the signs of what he had done. They really were preoccupied weren’t they?
I) I agree with Nicholas, pleasuring yourself over your sister is pretty disturbing, but remember there is always worse. It would be funny to just to see the scene where he’s about to get caught jacking off though. People can be very disturbing and unusual at times don’t you guys agree?
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Post by VonGarcia on Dec 9, 2013 22:46:41 GMT -5
C.) In the very first page, he talks about how attractive Paula Robeson is. It sounds as if he likes her. Does he actually like her? Another part in the book that kind of showed that he found her very attractive was in page 2 when he says “and I remember the glance she gave me – those cool, assessing grey eyes.” I’m also wondering as to why he said that joke when she asked him, “are you safe?” He replied, “haven’t attacked a woman in over a year. I used to attack two or three a week, but the meetings are helping.” I also noticed that most of his jokes are like this. His jokes are witty and weird.
E.) I don’t like it how there is quite a few narrative drifts in this book. I see them all over the book. Sometimes, he also adds a lot of unnecessary details. For example, “The bed was scattered with pictures I’d clipped from the magazines I’d found in the back of the garage – the previous owner’s stash of Penthouse and Gallery magazines, very likely.” To me, he sounds like a very odd guy. He kind of reminds me of Christopher from the book The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time.
I agree with Anthony. I also like that quote from page 5. It quote that gets people thinking and realize that it’s true. I also agree with Nick. I found that scene where he used his sister's underpants extremely disturbing and disgusting. The worst part is that I have a sister myself and that thought never came across my mind before. Im gonna kill myself now.
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Post by peterboustani on Dec 9, 2013 23:14:53 GMT -5
Peter Boustani D. Whether it was with the intention of ribald or rather just to emphasize the realism I was not a big fan of the constant references to the narrators . He would not stop bringing up extremely awkward topics and whether he was trying humorous or mature or realistic but it just felt unnecessary and stupid although it was actually the points that I became the most attentive mostly due to shock. C. I was very confused by the entire portion speaking of the things that are left behind and them reappearing. I simply did not enjoy these portions of the book as I am all for mystery but it was so disjointed I didn’t feel as though it intrigued me. I. I agree with Chris Noble as I didn’t like King’s Narrative Drift either as a narrator, whether it be actually going into an unnecessary side story such as his emotional wave that he felt when he saw the sunglasses, reflecting on that time his mother and sister went out, or just including little annoying side details. For example, when King simply goes into this side fact/story, “’Besbol been bery-bery good to mee,’ Cleve would sometimes say, waving the bat over his head as he sat at his desk. ‘In-SHOO-rance been bery-bery bad.’” I just didn’t like it because I feel whenever a writer does this, where they goes into tangents it becomes very cheesy and unbelievable which I feel is the exact opposite of what they are going for as I feel this technique is used to add a sense of realism to the piece.
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Post by luissantana on Dec 9, 2013 23:28:23 GMT -5
C) What was the whole point of the story? I found it very confusing and hard to understand it just seemed as if he rambled on the whole story. Why did he think that all these things were popping out, out of nowhere? Who owns the sun glasses that he is showing the door man? It seems really confusing because he names at least three people. Also he says that there was a jokes shade. Is the whole point of the story to tell about the people of his job at 9/11 that were killed and that he is telling their story through their stuff? That’s all I really got from reading other than that it was confusing. A) It seems as if Stephen King shows a lot of narrators drift as he goes through talking about some objects in his house and things that happened in his life. This reminds me of The Odyssey because Homer had lots of narrators drift. But I think that the narrator drift in this reading wasn’t as long as The Odyssey but it still did mess with me and my understanding of the reading. E) I feel as if Mr. Staley was going a bit crazy remembering all the people that he knew that were dead. I also thought that he was right to have been surprised when he saw all the stuff back in his house, if it was me I would have felt the same. I also think that he is a very talkative person and that he has a very vivid imagination.
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Post by victorpasquin on Dec 10, 2013 0:07:07 GMT -5
C) I am confused as to why Scott is hesitant to tell the woman his actual name. “I admitted, that it was, although I didn’t add that I was still quite new to it. Nor did I ask her to call me Scott, that would have spooked her all over again.” Does he have a crush on her or something and doesn't know how to approach her? Could he be afraid that he may embarrass himself in front of her and he doesn't want her spreading the word about him?
I) I agree with Chris Noble and Nick Leong in saying that the narrative drift is distracting, annoying, and boring. In the Odyssey, I felt like there was a lot of narrative drift spread throughout the whole book. In this passage, I feel like the narrative drift is excessive and takes the reader off topic. It took my mind off of the reading and made me not want to read it.
E) I liked when King writes how the glasses get replaced and assumes that it was the work of ghosts. I found it enjoyable to me because I believe in ghosts because of the experiences I've had in my life. I believe that it could have been related to some sort of paranormal activity.
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