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Post by Mr. Thomas on Dec 4, 2013 9:29:57 GMT -5
The Rise of King Arthur
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Post by chrisnoble on Dec 4, 2013 19:03:17 GMT -5
A. I think the part when Sir Grummore and King Pellinore were talking about the Church and the stone was pointless: “‘I don’t know what the Church is coming to,’ said Sir Grummore. ‘It’s in an anvil,’ explained the King. ‘The Church?’ ‘No, the sword.’ ‘But I thought you said the sword was in the stone?’ ‘No,’ said King Pellinore. ‘The stone is outside the Church.’” (page 1032). I felt like this quote shows Narrative Drift and is similar to a quote that can be found in The Odyssey.
D. I liked the part of the story when King Pellinore and Sir Grummore were talking about the king dying: “‘He’s dead,’ cried King Pellinore tragically. ‘He’s dead, poor fellah, and can’t hunt anymore.’ Sir Grummore stood up respectfully and took off his cap. ‘The King is dead,’ he said. ‘Long live the King.’ Everybody else felt they ought to stand up too, and the boys’ nurse burst into tears. ‘There, there,’ she sobbed. ‘His loyal highness dead and gone, and him such a respectful gentleman.’” (page 1031). I liked this quote because it shows how good of a person the King must have been. The way the people in this quote reacted shows that the King was liked and will definitely be missed.
E. I liked Kay’s quote about the sword in the stone: “‘Oh father,’ cried Kay. ‘The man who pulls the sword out of the stone will be the King of England. Can’t we go to the tournament, father, and have a shot?’” (page 1033). I liked this quote because it brings suspense and anticipation to the reader.
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Post by eddieditolla on Dec 4, 2013 20:10:20 GMT -5
Eddie DiTolla
Mr. Thomas
English 10
12/4/13
Arthur Becomes King of Britain
D. Some lines I liked in this book were “King Pellinore closed his eyes tight, extended his arms in both directions, and announced in capital letters, Whose Pulleth Out this sword of this stone and Anvil, is the Rightwise King Born of all England” Pg1033 I liked this set of lines because that anyone who finds and pulls the sword of the stone will be the king of England. I also liked it because it reminded me of the Disney movie the sword in the stone. Another set of lines that I liked were “we have had a good time while we were young, but it is in the nature of Time to fly. There are many things in other parts of the kingdom of which I ought to be attending to just now, and it is an especially busy time for me.” Pg. 1035 I liked this set of lines because it reminded of the quote time flies when you’re having fun. I liked this quote because it reminded them of their child hood and how the always had fun when they were kids and now in nature it is time to fly, go somewhere else.
E. My reactions is when the animals are talking to Wart while taking the sword out. My reactions towards this is that I find this a little weird that the animals are coming out of the picture and glass and also talking to him on what to do. “Put your back into it said a luce.” Pg. 1039
G. The character I chose to be is Wart when taking the sword out of the stone. If I was him I would feel a little weird and anxious to take the sword out, but most of all I would feel happy to get the sword out of the stone without realizing it was the sword the King was telling them about and freaked out about why animals would be talking to me.
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Post by jcktffy on Dec 4, 2013 20:19:53 GMT -5
DB- The Once and Future King
The comparison between Wart and Odysseus is extremely similar. They both portray heroism and bravery throughout their journey. They both continually live up to their reputation in their town or area. But in the stories Wart is seen as a less likely candidate for being represented as a hero, while Odysseus is shown as a strong, courageous man who can do anything.
My confusion is on a broad scale, I just do not understand why this story is throw in at the end of the Odyssey. I understand that they can relate to each other but I do not know why it is mentioned here. It should have its own story and book.
I like what Chris Noble said “ I liked the part of the story when King Pellinore and Sir Grummore were talking about the king dying: “‘He’s dead,’ cried King Pellinore tragically. ‘He’s dead, poor fellah, and can’t hunt anymore.’ Sir Grummore stood up respectfully and took off his cap. ‘The King is dead,’ he said. ‘Long live the King.’ Everybody else felt they ought to stand up too, and the boys’ nurse burst into tears. ‘There, there,’ she sobbed. ‘His loyal highness dead and gone, and him such a respectful gentleman.’” (page 1031). I liked this quote because it shows how good of a person the King must have been. The way the people in this quote reacted shows that the King was liked and will definitely be missed.” I also really liked this part of the book and thought it was very interesting. I felt that it was extremely vital part too.
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Post by kyleconnolly on Dec 4, 2013 21:11:34 GMT -5
A) One connection that I was able to make between this story and the Odyssey is that Kay has asked his father if they could go to the tournament and watch, seeing all of the great knights and nobles that will be there. Kay’s father resisted, stating that it was a long trip to the tournament, but like Polyphemus did to his father, Kay said that if his father truly loved him than he would do them a favor. “If you love me, so that I may bear away at the prize of all, in my maiden fight.”
C) I understand that the English want to elect a new ruler through whomever can pull off a seemingly impossible task but since this task requires strength, what if an extremely large, strong idiotic man pulled out the sword? Wouldn’t the country be in a deep problem if some idiot pulled out the sword because of brute strength? I think that they should elect a new ruler based on politics, not strength.
E) I found it pretty funny that Sir Ector and Kay tried asked the Wart to put the sword back so they may pull it out again. In doing so they would become the King of England but were unable. I was able to picture this scene in my head and I found it quite humiliating for Kay and Ector. It’s also very selfish of them, for instead of being respectful and congratulating the Wart, they tried to steal what he had rightfully done. The Wart also doesn’t seem to recognize the enormity of pulling out the sword and becoming the King of England.
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Post by martinsteffens on Dec 4, 2013 21:29:39 GMT -5
Martin Steffens
Mr. Thomas
English 10
December 4th 2013
Arthur Becomes King of Britain
C) The first question I have is how is the king dead if King Pellinore is talking? Is he trying to hide himself or is he another king. If he is another king I do not see why he is worried and sad. I am also confused at the part when they are deciding to pull the sword out of the stone. I think that one of them should be king without this contest. My last question is if Merlyn is the same Merlyn that is magical. Since this is a similar story to the famous ones, I’m not sure if Merlyn is the same.
D) “‘This is extraordinary,’ said the Wart. ‘I feel strange when I have hold of this sword, and I notice everything much more clearly. Look at the beautiful gargoyles of the church, and of the monastery which it belongs to. See how splendidly all the famous banners in the aisle are waving. How nobly that yew holds up the red flakes of its timbers to worship God. How clean the snow is. I can smell something like sweet briar- and is that music I hear?’”
I enjoyed these lines because it made Wart feel like a superhero even though it was just a sword.
F) I feel like the relationship between Wart and Kay is a big, important one. Wart was the one who got the sword out of the stone. After he says something very unselfish: “’People,’ cried the Wart, ‘I must take this sword. It is not for me, but for Kay. I will bring it back.’” Even though we d not know the relationship between the two, it must be a strong one.
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Post by robertmaruca on Dec 4, 2013 21:49:42 GMT -5
The Once and Future King
A. While reading the story I noticed a connection between this story and the Odyssey. In this story Kay, the foster brother of Arthur, asks his dad if they can go watch the tournament. Prestigious nights and nobles will be present at this tournament and Kay tells his dad that he will really know if this is really his dad if he takes him to this event. In the Odyssey the Cyclops tells his dad Poseidon that he will really know if this is his dad if Poseidon goes on to torture and kill Odysseus.
E. I had mixed reactions when the animals came out of the pictures and started telling Wart what to do. At first I thought it was weird, but I then realized that it made a little sense because Wart was having trouble with the sword and the animals were just trying to help him.
G. If I were Wart I would be very excited. The first reason I would be excited is because if I had just taken a sword out of a rock I would be pretty happy. Then the fact tha tit was the sword that the king was talking about makes me fell even more happy.
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Post by nicholasleong on Dec 4, 2013 22:04:29 GMT -5
d. One quote I thought was really interesting was “He’s dead,’ cried King Pellinore tragically. ‘He’s dead, poor fellah, and can’t hunt anymore.’ Sir Grummore stood up respectfully and took off his cap. ‘The King is dead,’ he said. ‘Long live the King.’ Everybody else felt they ought to stand up too, and the boys’ nurse burst into tears. ‘There, there,’ she sobbed. ‘His loyal highness dead and gone, and him such a respectful gentleman.’” (page 1031). I liked this quote because it shows how good of a person the King must have been.” This quote was interesting for many reasons. One of the reasons is we get a perspective of the King before he gets introduced and of Sir Grummore. The second reason why I think it is interesting is because this is how it kind of starts of and I never read a story that just went straight to the point like that.
H. if I was a set designer for the scene where Wart pulled out the sword I would put it in like a crowded place where everybody was and Wart just comes out of nowhere to try and get it out of the rock. After getting to the Rock he pulls the sword as fast as he could and falls with the sword in hand because it came out so easily.
I. I agree with Kyle where he says “I found it pretty funny that Sir Ector and Kay tried asked the Wart to put the sword back so they may pull it out again. In doing so they would become the King of England but were unable. I was able to picture this scene in my head and I found it quite humiliating for Kay and Ector. It’s also very selfish of them, for instead of being respectful and congratulating the Wart, they tried to steal what he had rightfully done. The Wart also doesn’t seem to recognize the enormity of pulling out the sword and becoming the King of England.” This was very funny because of how jealous they were of Wart.
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Post by alfredfrederic on Dec 4, 2013 22:56:03 GMT -5
A) The sword and the stone is a very popular story. It emphasizes that even the lowly can become great through honor. It also shows it can be found unintentionally and we have to be aware of when we do find it. As shown when Arthur pulls the sword not knowing what sword he had pulled out. Nowadays people cannot notice what they have in their lives and keep trying to get better without knowing what they already have. And Arthur didn’t know what he had while holding that sword.
E) I liked the fact that Wart was oblivious to the true meaning of him pulling the sword from the stone. He literally pulled it out and was just being stared at because of it. Yet, he still didn’t realize what he had done. He even noticed the gold text on the sword itself. Yet why didn’t he read it nor realize the importance of that sword? Was it because he was a peasant and was uneducated? Or did he just not notice the gold writing on the sword?
F) It’s funny how Kay treats Wart. Through the short story it seems Kay treated Wart as a subordinate. As a squire is supposed to be to a knight., but then we find out that Wart is an adopted son. It seems to be a normal brotherly relationship where the second son is subordinate to the older one. Doesn’t it seem like that? Or is it something different, like boss to worker at points?
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Post by luissantana on Dec 4, 2013 23:37:44 GMT -5
A) I thought that the story really did connect with the Odyssey. I thought so with the thing that happened where Kay asks his dad if they could go to the tournament. He says no but Kay says that if he really loved him he would take him. This reminded me of when the Cyclops said this to Poseidon when Odysseus stabbed him in the eye. He said if you are truly my father you would punish Odysseus and I thought that these two really connected.
G) Acting as if I was Wart. I just pulled out this sword from this war memorial looking thing. But why did they want me to put the sword back into the stone. But I did anyway wand now Kay and Sir Ector and now trying to pull it out but they can’t. But wait why can’t they pull it out I was able to. Why is he kneeling down to me it makes me sad to see my father do this. I don’t care if he isn’t my full father it just makes me sad to see this.
I) I agree with what Kyle said about Wart pulling out the sword from the stone. I found it funny but also humiliating. I thought so because even though Sir Ector wasn’t really Wart’s dad but he was raised as the Sir’s son and he kneeled down to him. Also the fact that he told Wart to put it back just so that he could try to pull it out again.
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Post by victorpasquin on Dec 4, 2013 23:45:07 GMT -5
A) I was able to make a connection between The Once and Future King and the Odyssey. The connection I was able to make was between Kay and his father to Polyphemus and Poseidon. Kay asks his father to go to a tournament and his father says no, just as Poseidon does to Polyphemus in the Odyssey. Kay then tells his father that if he really loved him that he would help him and do him a favor. In the Odyssey, Polyphemus says the same thing to his father, Poseidon. Kay says, “If you love me, so that I may bear away at the prize of all, in my maiden fight.”
C) I do not get why the English were so obsessed with power and not knowledge back then. The English said that they wanted a ruler who was able to pull off a task that someone which exceptional strength and power could do. For example, what would happen if an amazingly strong, but not wise man was able to complete the challenge? The country would go spiraling down because of a ruler who would be full of himself and has no knowledge.
E) I found it amusing when Sir Ector and Kay asked the Wart to put the sword back so they could have another chance. I can't believe that they are really that dumb to think that they would be able to pull the sword out after already failing the first time. It must have been humiliating for them. Did they really think that the Wart would listen to them after they did not show him any respect or congratulate him after he was able to pull the sword out.
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